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Author Topic: Curling's future secure at Perth  (Read 577 times)
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« on: July 26, 2011, 02:14:32 PM »


Why is it that, when I read a headline like this one on Bob's Blog, http://skipcottagecurling.blogspot.com/2011/07/curlings-future-secure-at-perth.html/ I start worrying about the future of Curling at Perth.
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2011, 02:39:53 PM »

because you have issues? Grin
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 03:53:23 PM »

Why is it that, when I read a headline like this one on Bob's Blog, http://skipcottagecurling.blogspot.com/2011/07/curlings-future-secure-at-perth.html/ I start worrying about the future of Curling at Perth.

I can see what you mean. The essence of Bob's post is this:

It is proposed to create a ‘Live Active Leisure Park’ with significant reconfiguration and redevelopment of the pool area and its ‘fun features’ for example.

But we'll simply have to wait and see once they appoint a Project Manager and release more details and, as Bob says, look at the positive side. For now.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2011, 10:14:22 AM »

Building a new super duper rink 20 mins down the motorway really will help the situation wont it?

The brain surgeons deciding on the NCA location obviously didnt think about that very much did they! (as that was what was causing the rumours in the 1st place)

But of course they were thinking only what suited themselves and didnt take into consideration what was best for ice rink provision as a whole.
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2011, 11:38:08 AM »

Building a new super duper rink 20 mins down the motorway really will help the situation wont it?

The brain surgeons deciding on the NCA location obviously didnt think about that very much did they! (as that was what was causing the rumours in the 1st place)

But of course they were thinking only what suited themselves and didnt take into consideration what was best for ice rink provision as a whole.

Just to clarify the position of the SCIG and Kinross, allow me to mention that the design we put forward for Kinross was for a four sheeter to replace the existing number of sheets. We did not support a six sheeter or a super duper palace, because they could not provide a business plan that supported their claims, but we were willing to compromise with a five sheeter based on the projected additional income of the NCA. We had the future of Dewars in mind, as well as other rinks or proposed rinks -- in our view a six sheeter fit for larger competitions would not have been able to pay for itself in Kinross, and it would perversely also have done serious harm to Dewars.

Strange, isn't it, but a £1m refurb of the rink at Dewars would certainly help towards securing its future!
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Just to clarify the position of the SCIG and Kinross, allow me to mention that the design we put forward for Kinross was for a four sheeter to replace the existing number of sheets. We did not support a six sheeter

John,
Just for the sake of good order, You are either ignoring the fact or were unable to understand the original bid criteria. To be fair, perhaps you were not included in the bid process which of course would have surprised you.

The NCA bid required to have included two sheets permanently available to the NCA.
In my simple mind this would have rendered a four sheet rink only having two sheet available for none elite curlers. 

Now I only hope two and two do make four.
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2011, 03:55:21 PM »

The NCA bid required to have included two sheets permanently available to the NCA.
In my simple mind this would have rendered a four sheet rink only having two sheet available for none elite curlers. 

If you would like to see a copy of the Outline Specifications and Costs for the National Curling Academy, please ask and I'll send it to you. I quote from that document:

It will be a curling only facility with at least four sheets of curling ice

It will have a viable business based on a mix of club and squad use

If the NCA is to be part of a 6 or 8 sheet facility consideration should be given to having the ability to partition /prepare only 4 sheets for use in the summer months


Considering that much of the document uses information that I supplied to Colin G, I think I understand the contents very well. I did not say that the NCA could not be a six sheeter, but I did say that it wouldn't work in Kinross.
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2011, 04:54:42 PM »

Just to clarify the position of the SCIG and Kinross, allow me to mention that the design we put forward for Kinross was for a four sheeter to replace the existing number of sheets. We did not support a six sheeter

John,
Just for the sake of good order, You are either ignoring the fact or were unable to understand the original bid criteria. To be fair, perhaps you were not included in the bid process which of course would have surprised you.

The NCA bid required to have included two sheets permanently available to the NCA.
In my simple mind this would have rendered a four sheet rink only having two sheet available for none elite curlers. 

Now I only hope two and two do make four.

I can also back JM that the bid criteria did not stipulate 2 sheets permanently for the NCA. Indeed the indications from teh RCCC was that the bulk of the elite /NCA training would take place at the shoulders of the season at the start and end of regular curling for the locals - with relatively very little required throughout the season proper.

This then begs the question why a rink has to be specifically the home of an NCA and why the duties of the NCA couldnt be carried out by existing rinks at a fraction of the cost.
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