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« on: October 27, 2011, 08:54:46 AM »


I have been asked by Kay Adams,  RCCC, to advise that European Playoff results can be found at https://sites.google.com/site/royalclubeuroplayoffs/home until the main site is restored.
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2011, 04:54:58 PM »

 ;)Sandy,  could we consider that as a kind of unofficial recognition of the usefulness of the forum??
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2011, 05:51:51 PM »

Could be and I certainly hope so.
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2011, 06:27:24 PM »

Even more impressive is the fact that the website has running line scores - maybe somebody does listen.
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 11:10:26 AM »

The purpose of the European Playdowns is presumably to establish the best representative for the European Championships. To my mind this was achieved when Muirhead and Brewster went 6-zip in the round robin.

While everyone knew the rules before they started should either team fail to qualify the process would seem somewhat flawed.
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 12:02:22 PM »

Boss. I take your point, but all these guys have very little difference in terms of ability to throw a curling stone, what is important is being able to throw a curling stone whilst under extreme pressure, so  I understand the logic of the best of 3 system. This system should also eliminate a wild card team (not that there were any allowed to compete).

With a possibility of contradicting myself it would seem a little unfair if a team that only won 2 from 6 in the round robins were to go through and a team  with 6 from 6 doesn't, so perhaps a best of 5, including the round robin results in the mix may alleviate that somewhat, and still mean that the top team have to perform on the last day to ensure qualification.
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2011, 12:08:51 PM »

Loosely on topic.  Looking at the line scores some games finished with an x and some with a c - what is the difference?
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2011, 10:57:20 PM »

Played 10 won 5 - represent Scotland in Euros.
Played 9 won 7 - go home.

Just not right.

I appreciate the comment in the previous post about playing under pressure but if you only win a third of your round robin games you aint going to be playing in the latter stages.

Did the fact that Tom Brewster was on the ice for little more than an hour yesterday have an effect? Was the teams fluency disrupted?

Can anyone tell me of another curling competition run under these rules or in fact any other sport for that matter?

Just some thoughts.
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2011, 03:11:35 PM »

Loosely on topic.  Looking at the line scores some games finished with an x and some with a c - what is the difference?

Going on memory, the x means an end was not played, while the c means it was not completed (as in running the opposition out of stones and shaking hands, with some stones still to be played).
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2011, 03:14:00 PM »

Did the fact that Tom Brewster was on the ice for little more than an hour yesterday have an effect?

Sadly I wasn't there. Was Tom not well? If so, who played in his place?
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2011, 06:17:36 PM »

Sorry John,
Tom's game on the Saturday morning was a walkover and shake after 6 ends.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2011, 08:14:13 PM »

Thanks, Jimbo. I get the picture.

Having looked at all the other contributions to this play-off bit, I'm sure the curlers themselves knew the rules, probably designed the rules, accepted the rules, and played by the rules. The better team on the day went through. Let's wish them all the best.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2011, 09:19:15 PM »

Loosely on topic.  Looking at the line scores some games finished with an x and some with a c - what is the difference?

Going on memory, the x means an end was not played, while the c means it was not completed (as in running the opposition out of stones and shaking hands, with some stones still to be played).

Thanks John but I have been watching linescores for a long time and the c  seems to be a relatively recent arrival?
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2011, 12:22:25 AM »

I think it has only been introduced this year to try and give clarity to the endgame situation - previously when the X was used for any unfinished game it did not show the difference between where the game had been conceded at the end of an end or conceded during the end when the losing team had been run out of stones and so if a final score was shown as 5-4 with an X in the last end then it looked unusual if the game had been conceded by a handshake at the end of the 9th end when in fact the game had been conceded when there was no mathematical chance of winning and so it would now be shown as a C. Just to help all us stattos in the future.

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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2011, 12:29:17 AM »

And I see it is all explained in the 2011-12 RCCC Rulebook.
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