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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2011, 10:06:40 AM »

Interesting point. I organised events in the past and was a taxi driver of teams and more specifically my daughter.  10 years ago most events started on a Saturday morning and occasionally on a Friday evening. Early games were given to teams nearest the venue. However the event was limited to 24 teams and occasionally if enough ice 36.
Maybe now the organisers are trying to increase the entry which is great to give benifit to as many juniors as possible. One answer might be to have two levels of curling with an elite group and another group made up of new and less experienced teams but that might cause problems with some saying 'why isn't my Johnnny's team in the top group?'!  Nothing like getting the parents on side!
The other is to split male and femalt events which decreases the social side of curling-- do these events have Discos on a Saturday night or is that old hat.
If the events like the Greenacres Masters have increased in size then it is a healthy sign for Junior curling.
Finally  to the Parent who withdrew their sons team on the Fridays afternoon game --- I hope you gave plenty of notice to the organisers. Most schools dont do much on a Friday late morning and afternoon and possibly taking part in a sports event might be better for their education and well being. There is little enough sport in some schools.
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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2011, 10:41:08 PM »

To be fair - I added all the Friday's my daughter is playing, the number of which is 7. 2 of these are in the tattie holidays, the remaining 5 are all pre Christmas, some are a late afternoon or evening start. Greenacres Masters already played. So it's not quite as bad as I first thought.

I would advise against splitting the U17 junior events, we've been there before. The girls are very capable of looking after themselves. Take Lockerbie U17 slam this weekend, 24 teams in total,  Low Road Runner Up and Third place, and High Road Third Place were female teams. That's a brilliant performance when you consider the skill and power of some of the young male teams.

 Disco's are off the menu - these kids are serious athletes these days.You can't have a split level either, as the improvement at that age can be enormous in a very short period. Teams also change each year as players age out.

No, I think that we are becoming successful at attracting more youngsters (at last) to the game. Many more juniors are becoming competitive players (32 teams registered for U17's this year). I believe this is due to the Skills Awards, Curlings Cool, the structure and set up now employed by RCCC, and the interest shown by the coaches with a clear progession pathway to elite level and the aspiration to be the next Eve or Dave or Tom.

I think many competitions at U21 level in the future will need more days to complete than the standard weekend to deal with the number of entries, so it either stays as it is, and I as a parent have to decide what is best for my child, or move to Saturday, Sunday, Monday events, maybe split some events over two weekends, or perhaps  competition organisers could look at trying to have events during school/college/uni holidays, in service days and the like to minimise the academic impact.

The difficulty curling faces now, is not the 13-17 age group, it is the 20-40 age group. We need to do more to retain these youngster interest when they move away from the local town and home. We need to do more in the Colleges and Universities, and use Facebook and Twitter to keep curling in their lives.

Sorry for the long rant - just got into a flow
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2011, 08:57:54 AM »

To Dunoon Rock

The team were withdrawn over a week before the competition and only after detailed discussions with Richard as soon as the draw was posted.

The kids were asked to enter late to make up the numbers and we did so on the understanding it was a Friday night start. Richard was completely supportive but there was little he could do to change the draw once it was issued, and he managed to get a replacement team. Had he been unable to do so we would have conceded the Friday afternoon game and played the rest but I was reluctant to have a team of 14 year olds play at that higher level already a game down before they had thrown a stone.

On the question of what happens at school. I don't know what school you are involved in, but I can assure you that these kids have academic work to do on a Friday and this is their 4th year, therefore exam year and I will not be removing them from school unnecessarily. The schools already have an extensive sports program including weekly outings to Sports Scotlands Inverclyde facility in Largs, therefore to steal an extra afternoon of their schooling every time there is a competition is not really a viable option.

I am sure many other parents have similar views but feel pressured into taking kids out of school to prove their "commitment" to the sport, whereas the sport should really be looking at how it can structure its competitions to allow school children to fully participate without taking time off. The Under 17 Slam is a perfect example - all events are played on the Saturday / Sunday only.
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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2011, 09:30:48 AM »

Two excellent posts from Yakkity and Curling  Dad.
At the end of the day each parent has to make a choice and much depends on the factors of what type of school, distance of school from the venue and also the needs and desires of parents for their children.
I remember entering Grammar School and seeing the notice above the Gym entrance - 'Mems in Corpre Sano'.   It stuck with me and I passed through school and University with this in mind. As a result whilst I was not academically brilliant i enjoyed life. This is life not a practice for another.
My two daughters did the same - with my surport. One swam until an injury curtailed her ambitions. The other swam and then curled to the highest level but both have had great experience through their sports and more importantly have a large list of friends world wide.
Thank you Curling Dad for at least giving good notice of withdrawal and discussing it with Richard. Thats the best way to work to help the team and the sport as well as the comp organisers.
I am pleased and delighted, Yakkity, that you feel that the Curling's Kool and the Skills Awards have had an effect. I was involved in the initial formation of the new skills award until we got a new unknown and ultimately useless Director of Development who dropped it. Luckily it got revived and we knew it would take time to have an effect. We felt at the time that it was the best way to encourage youngsters into curling and keep them.
The RCCC coaching and development employees are doing a great job in carrying this and other ideas forward.
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