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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2011, 08:35:16 PM »

JM - "Next question: does the RCCC care about its members? When I was a member, they certainly did not care much about me."

Can you move to a different thread please? It's off topic from my original post.

Ta.

Sorry, GH, I thought I was replying to a post, with quote. It's obviously not what you wanted to hear. The truth can be like that at times, I do apologise.
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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2011, 09:47:20 AM »

Hi JM, It's not that it's not what I want to hear...this is a public forum so you can write away:-)

Don't get me wrong, I have had my own run ins with the RCCC. 2 incidents in particular left me reeling for years. On the flip side, they have also been extremely supportive of me at other times and I can't fault how they have done that in recent years, so I have experienced their good side too.

I just think that what people feel about the RCCC needs to be a different thread from my original one, that's all.
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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2011, 02:02:55 PM »

I just think that what people feel about the RCCC needs to be a different thread from my original one, that's all.

Yes, I hear what you're saying. It is one of the difficulties we all face! If I could spend 24/7 on the forum posts could be ordered better, I wish..... Sorry, anyway, and let's not regurgitate the RCCC thread just yet. Last time was painful enough.

Can you (or anyone) please tell me about Kelly Wood? I did pick up somewhere that she is now in Canada and simply want to know the basics.
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« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2011, 06:18:55 PM »

Kelly movin tae Canada yes.

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« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2011, 10:57:30 PM »

Hi All Just returned again is work not the curse of the curling classes.
Nice to see John is still carring on his anti RCCC campaign . I find it difficult to understand how he can present himself as the saviour of Scottish curling and be so against its administrative body.  Does he not have the courage to stand for as a representative member or does he realise that only like minded people would vote for him. Therefore no chance of being elected. Every sport needs a governbody and every sport has an ineffectual John, their knowledge of like minded Johns tells the RCCC it best just to ignore them. 
John don't stop I am sure the RCCC board find your venomous dribble as humorous as the rest of us. Love and best wishes to the circle fan club members.
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« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2011, 11:29:55 PM »

slipsliding ~ I disagree with you but not necessarily for the reason that you might think.There are some things that I agree with John about and some things that I disagree with him, but

RCCC, like many Sporting Organisations, in prone to become fat and idle unless one keeps nipping at its heels. If there were no one to keep it up to the mark, Curling would be in a parlous state. It is the JMs of this world, that have the necessary guts to stand and point out where the organisation is failing us, that we need to encourage.
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2011, 10:02:39 AM »

Hi All Just returned again is work not the curse of the curling classes.
Nice to see John is still carring on his anti RCCC campaign . I find it difficult to understand how he can present himself as the saviour of Scottish curling and be so against its administrative body.  Does he not have the courage to stand for as a representative member or does he realise that only like minded people would vote for him. Therefore no chance of being elected. Every sport needs a governbody and every sport has an ineffectual John, their knowledge of like minded Johns tells the RCCC it best just to ignore them. 
John don't stop I am sure the RCCC board find your venomous dribble as humorous as the rest of us. Love and best wishes to the circle fan club members.

You are of course welcome to disagree with me, Slipsliding, but it does not give you the right to spew forth unfair and unsubstantiated accusations.
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2011, 11:09:26 AM »

Guys - If you want to continue to throw your RCCC toys from the pram can you create another thread for it, please?  GH has already asked that we get this back on topic, which is supposed to be ladies curling so I'll make an effort.

GH - I have to admit that the current situation in ladies curling is more than a little worrying.  We do have some very talented players, however there were only 8 entries in last years Scottish championships.  I also understand that you're not the only one taking a back seat this year, which could lead to even less entries next season.  To have a strong womens game we really do need to have more teams playing in our National championships.

I think someone really needs to look into why those who could be playing choose not to, or we could soon end up with only 4-6 teams.
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« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2011, 09:12:32 AM »

Can I suggest factors that will apply to different people:-

Time or lack of it to play a lot of wkends, taking time off work on a Friday Monday is becoming harder in the current economic climate.

Cost for the no funded teams, again difficult in the current climate.

Lack of support for the non-funded teams and 'uneven' playing field.

Don't know how to change these but apply to the men's game as well.
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« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2011, 11:22:45 PM »

I think the RCCC are aware of the problem facing the ladies game. I also believe with Nancy, they are addressing the issue. The game has at least 1 recognisable star, and she seems happy to bring curling to a wider female audience in our national media. This will help increase the number of younger girls wanting to play (perhaps). The new approach to the elite, podium, regional academy will definately help. I believe the new Regional Talent Pool will help increase female participation with a possible maximum of 4 girls from each of the  21 rinks in the country being eligeable to apply and have achievement goals set in place and actively encouraged to compete competitivly in Under 17, Under 21's etc. I think the new approach with Nancy Murdoch in charge will help to increase the number of girls taking up the sport, and taking it seriously.

Now if we could just get the Ladies Branch to dispense with the Under and Overs, and instead put their sponsership into a girls only Under 17's tournament, ( at under 17 level their is no girls only tournament) and an Under 21's international bonspiel we might get the team numbers on the increase again.
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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2011, 10:13:00 PM »

I see the Ladies Branch has decided to go with the Unders and Overs again this year, but have changed the dates to try to get more interest. But why put it in Stranraer for a relaunch, possibly the most inaccessible ice rink in Scotland for most people to get to.

I wish them well and hope they get the entries - however I stick to the point in my previous post -  and would regard an Under 17 girls only event, or an Under 21 Womens International event more likely to succeed in getting more girls involved in competitive curling..
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« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2011, 05:41:11 PM »

I see the Ladies Branch has decided to go with the Unders and Overs again this year, but have changed the dates to try to get more interest. But why put it in Stranraer for a relaunch, possibly the most inaccessible ice rink in Scotland for most people to get to.
Maybe not very accessible, but it will be the cheapest ice, best value with all the amenities under one roof..... park you car when you arrive and not have to drive.....even more time to socialise.....is that not what its all about?
I thought Ladies Branch was all about fostering and encouraging the game at all levels at every opportunity.
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« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2011, 08:44:16 PM »

I see the Ladies Branch has decided to go with the Unders and Overs again this year, but have changed the dates to try to get more interest. But why put it in Stranraer for a relaunch, possibly the most inaccessible ice rink in Scotland for most people to get to.
Maybe not very accessible, but it will be the cheapest ice, best value with all the amenities under one roof..... park you car when you arrive and not have to drive.....even more time to socialise.....is that not what its all about?
I thought Ladies Branch was all about fostering and encouraging the game at all levels at every opportunity.
And while I'm at it, do you think the choice of venues chosen by the RCCC for the ladies tour at Forfar and Aberdeen are more accessible? My geography is not great but I do know that Glasgow (by far the largest population) to Stranraer is 85 miles and Glasgow to Aberdeen is 145 miles. So for the majority of people Aberdeen is far less accessible!! Stirling is even closer to Stranraer than Aberdeen. Could it be Yikkity comes from Perth or further North and is being a little selfish with his/her comments? Maybe we should just hold everything up North and forget about the rest.
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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2011, 10:09:49 PM »

I was just thinking that for a relaunch of an event, a central location such as Greenacres, Stirling or Murrayfield might encourage more participation.
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