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John Minnaar said in another Topic

That is the bottom line, the heart of the matter. A governing body should govern, or they will lose the job.

Does anyone know when we will be informed of the sucessful Board nominations, voting closed on Sunday 31st May?

Will Bob Tait and Anne Malcolm have retained their positions on the Board or will the clubs have voted with their feet, at the first possible opportunity, to clear out those who opt not to govern?

[Sandy Morton]

IMMIC it will be announced at the AGM.  Millport voted for a florin.

[Sandy Morton]

This should possibly be under a different heading but I'll let others decide.

In excess of 300 people attended the AGM - 300 seats had been laid out and more were necessary.  I do not know how many were voting members but for the Special Resolution 176 votes were cast.  In favour of the SR the votes were 133 and against 43.  It was therefore carried by .56%(point 56%).

I asked at the end of the meeting, but of relevance, that the Board now look into the possibility of individual membership so that members did not have to be a member of a club.  I think most people were either sleeping or suffering from pressure sores by then but I was assured that it would be looked at.

Bill Marshall was elected President which was no great surprise.  Robbie Scott (113 votes) beat Pat Edington (45 votes) for the position of Vice President and this to me was a great surprise.

The next AGM will be at the Erskine Bridge Hotel on 19th June 2010 - thankfully not beside a major shopping centre as Anne had a field day today - more so because I had said that the meeting would last for about 2 hours and it stretched at least 35 minutes longer.

In the election for the 2 vacant places on the Board Anne Malcolm received 112 votes and Bob Kelly 102.  I didn't manage to get all the figures but I think that Bob Tait was fourth with about 40 votes.

Other matters were raised which I didn't write down but perhaps the most encouraging comment was made by Bill Marshall when he said that ASC members would take a more active role in the running of the Royal Club.

A silly old git from Millport suggested in the debate about RCCC Communications that the SCF was an admirable place to learn about Scottish Curling and to argue with some of the best Curlers in Scotland.  He also stated that the SCF was not totally anti the RCCC.

A sad part of the meeting was when the CEO had to leave early because one of his kids had been taken into hospital and I/we can only hope that the wee one is OK.

Other members of the Forum were present and I will not be offended if they wish to alter any of this but I would also hope that they will add to it.

[hoglinewamphray]

Well summarised, Sandy.

You spoke up well for this Forum too.

[Devils Advocate]

aye - i managed to get a glimpse of that old codger from Millport  and put  face to the 2nd most prolific poster on here - there was a grand opportunity for the most prolific poster (if he had been there) in the question bit when a chappie from Gogar raised a few (pretty relevant) points in relation to the national Academy. From what i gather from the AGM there does seem to be a good bit of unrest that the RCCC is deeply involved in the build and running of the KInross project -- much to the disadvantage of other projects which do not seem to get any recognition. For instance Cupar seems to be much further down the road than the Academy even - yet it barely raised a mention. There was absolutely no mention of any possible Gogar situation or the fact that by plumping for Kinross, the RCCC for all intents and purposes scuppered the Gogar rink.

The RCCC has a duty to support all the curling membership, developments and projects - not just the ones they happen to be involved in. I heard also yesterday that the Fife Curlers were refused the opportunity to take a stall to publisice their plans and sell lottery tickets to raise money for their rink. I find that deplorable and the RCCC should be doing everything they can to help these people in their efforts.

[JohnMinnaar]

there was a grand opportunity for the most prolific poster (if he had been there) in the question bit when a chappie from Gogar raised a few (pretty relevant) points in relation to the national Academy. From what i gather from the AGM there does seem to be a good bit of unrest that the RCCC is deeply involved in the build and running of the KInross project -- much to the disadvantage of other projects which do not seem to get any recognition. For instance Cupar seems to be much further down the road than the Academy even - yet it barely raised a mention. There was absolutely no mention of any possible Gogar situation or the fact that by plumping for Kinross, the RCCC for all intents and purposes scuppered the Gogar rink.

Firstly, because I am in the process of moving house, home, etc. to an area where I have never curled, and will probably never curl in the areas where I have been a member of local clubs, I am not currently a member of the RCCC and therefore have no right to attend their meetings. They have also made it very clear that they are not interested in what I have to say, on any matters, especially the ones where I do happen to know what I'm talking about. However, I regret that I had not been able to be at that meeting.

Secondly, since the NCA bid was hijacked by Montgomery Hotel Group there has been considerable advancement in the NCA project, but not necessarily in the right direction. It has also become a sad reality to me that the RCCC approve of this hijacking, simply because of the total silence and disregard of all we in the SCIG had worked for. They and MHG (who is said not to be involved but I do not see the evidence -- on the contrary) will try to build what they want, neither group will pay for it and there will be no guarantee that it will be able to do its job. Ultimately the RCCC will have to take the same responsibility for this as with Vernon, and if they follow the Vernon example don't hold your breath for an NCA.

Thirdly, I agree totally that the RCCC should have spread their umbrella wider to include the efforts of Gogar Park and Fife Curling Trust. I presented an outline plan to the CEO many years ago that would have achieved this, but it was considered too radical, or too something, or not glorious enough, or whatever. Having said that, I have also had some contact with both those two groups, and they have decided they will go it alone as well, without my help. So the reality is that those in charge of a group will go their own way, whether the project is hijacked or not, and the fairness and all-inclusive intentions of the game of curling mean diddly squat to these groups. I have never seen such a shameful under-the-carpet behind-the-scenes waste of people and resources, ever.

[sjk]

well said John. The NCA thing has now got too big for all those involved if it ever does get built I dont think it will be fit for the purpose of providing EXCELLENT curling ice for 8 to 9 months of the year. Its quite sad for the curlers of Kinross, who will be putting there hands in there pockets to fund this project

[D.Third]

Quite interesting to read all of this, I arrived late and ended up standing right at the very back along with a handful of others. this meant that I could hardly hear some of the comments and, of course, I missed quite a big chunk at the beginning    

[JohnMinnaar]

well said John. The NCA thing has now got too big for all those involved if it ever does get built I dont think it will be fit for the purpose of providing EXCELLENT curling ice for 8 to 9 months of the year. Its quite sad for the curlers of Kinross, who will be putting there hands in there pockets to fund this project

They'll just have to shut up and put up, won't they!

But look at it from another angle. As I am now (mostly) living in Angus, I asked a local man in the paper shop if there is any place around here where we could go for a good meal out. Very helpful, he was, and he's lived in the area for over twenty years. "Well," he said, "there are plenty places to eat. But a good meal is not for the likes of us, you'll have to go to the city for that and even then it's difficult. No, here we eat what we get and pay for it."

From the outline specifications of the RCCC: The ice hall and plant will allow differing ice conditions to be replicated as required and be capable of producing curling ice during the summer months. The ice we make is generally specification curling ice of a high standard, which most curlers would refer to as excellent. What they're likely to get at the proposed NCA will be what they get, and it will NOT be easy to replicate differing ice conditions, let alone provide the same high standard. "Curling ice" is by definition a specific product, not simply frozen water, so whatever they'll be served will simply have to do!