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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2010, 11:44:49 AM »

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I'm sorry to disagree with Hogline and JMLB on this one. Last nights game was on the red button watched mainly by curling fans.

But the last few ends were also on BBC2 when the skiiing was cancelled. I agree that there should be an expert discussion, but probably that will be kept for the finals. I can just imagine the public outcry there is going to be anyaway about the cost of the BBC covering the Games for a few million winter sports fans - and so they have probably got a fairly restricted (though still large) budget.

As for miking up the players - maybe other countries run their commentaries differently - they are not just miked up for BBC coverage I presume.

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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2010, 12:06:57 PM »

I thought Rhona did a smashing job especially when compared to the expert contributions for the Snowboard Cross which has been grabbing my attention. Were in not for Ed Leigh, the Ski Sunday presenter I would not have appreciated the sport as much.

Time will tell - it could get a bit stale if we start having the same script pattered out from Steve Cram as we did from Dougie at Turin (I lost track of the number of times I heard the one describing the hogline).

Getting in some experts wouldn't hurt especially for the iPlayer "watch again" version.
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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2010, 12:18:32 PM »

I agree that the snowboard cross commentary has been awful too.... (bbc and eurosport )but it hasnt stopped my enjoyment of watching it.
Sorry Bob, it must just be JMLB that we ALL disagree with Wink
I watched the swedish ladies v denmark game last night (on eurovisiontv) and there was no commentary and the players were miked. I will be interested to watch scotland v china tonight and see if there is no commentary, I guess it will depend where their feed comes from. (I hope the use of the word feed made it look like i know what i am talking about!!). If the players are miked up and there is no commentary BBC will be one viewer down..
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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2010, 12:33:54 PM »

Miked up games with no commentary can have their downsides but also some very amusing ups.

Listening to James Dryburgh rabbiting in fluent swedish with an occasional word in scottish brogue that didn't obviously translate, followed a stones throw later, by
"F*ck! F*ck! F*ck! F*ck! F*ck! F*ck! F*CK!" in every increasing volume
as his stone just didn't curl and sailed by, is one of my amusing memories of Eurosport "watch again" coverage over the past years.
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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2010, 01:15:58 PM »

Like others I was disapointed in not hearing the players. Otherwise whats the point of being miked up. Lets listen to them during the time outs and then let Rhona demonstrate/explain using one of those screen pens to enlarge on what they are thinking of doing.
Otherwise I thought Rhona did well and that Crammy was better thaan I thought he was going to be.
Good curling but too many misses or wrong weight shots for a team at that level. Gone off the boil???
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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2010, 01:32:32 PM »

Bob, just to go back a couple of posts, i think jjk meant a post by *me* an not you. (I think!)

I think listening to the players only is pushing it too far - as JB says, when I filtered out the commentators, I found it hard to keep up with the players and their own team lingo - plus their tactical nous is a different league to mine, so I need someone to help me out, but i did find they use their brooms a lot to point,. and that was helping! lol

I certainly found, even watching on TV, that there was an extra crackle to the atmposhere with Olympic curling - maybe it's nothing more than watching the team in GB colours.
I always watch them as my home team anyway, but the different tops makes for a psychological difference?
Good fun, looking forward to watching as much as I can.
(and recording too, for tactical knowledge, much needed on my part!)
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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2010, 03:41:35 PM »

Any early thoughts on last nights curling? I thought GB struggled to get out of 2nd gear but I had a feeling they would lose. They are best suited when they are being aggressive and losing a couple of early games seems to be their best M.O. Although I am sure they would rather win. Canada v Norway seemed a good game, the canadians all shot in the 90's (according to the stats) and still had to hit the 4 foot to win...which martin managed (this time!). I think USA men will struggle and are likely to be whipping boys and hopefully switz can be in contention. (i have a preference for teams which havent been selected!). In the ladies sweden managed to steal a win but I do not think team GB should fear them today. Good to see andrea and team germany keeping their good form going. I still think mens will come down to gb and canada but in the ladies it is completely open.(now is the time to bet gb men by the way..odds have drifted)
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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2010, 05:18:43 PM »

So what your all saying is Logan & Kenny for the BBC???
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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2010, 05:24:26 PM »

So what your all saying is Logan & Kenny for the BBC???

Sounds fair to me!
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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2010, 05:30:13 PM »

Personally I think Cramie is doing a good job, What I like he's not just talking about the game he's trying to give you a feeling for the arena & the City of Van......
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« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2010, 07:26:43 PM »

China should be going for the freeze to get a 3?

Surely not.
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« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2010, 10:30:20 PM »

Watching the mens game vs France and I'm trying to work out why the stone was removed from play at the start of end 2. 
I've been on the WCF rulebook trying to work it out too?

Perhaps someone with more knowledge could enlighten me.
Found it very interesting that DM and EM were discussing having a rulebook
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« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2010, 11:11:12 PM »

afraid i am going to slag off the national olympic institution of Rhona.
Player she was - commentator she is not
And the BBC should be ashamed at shoehorning steve cram to do it - stick to athletics.

You want people to watch - you have to make it interesting and more importantly exciting. The commentator needs to know what they are talking about and be able to put it across in an interesting and entertaining manner. This duo just doesn cut it. Like listening to paint dry!!!

Think about all thr best commentators and what made them great to listen to - Bill McLaren, David Vine, david coleman, motty (maybe even old archie M - nah maybe not!) They knew their sports inside out and were enthusiastic when they commentated on it.

As soon as eurosport starts covering it ...thats where i,ll be - not brilliant but miles better than the beeb.

BBC send a plane for kenny and logan
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« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2010, 11:15:15 PM »

rant number two

why cant they keep us up todate with the scores and results on the other sheets .....

also on the skiing - why did they have to have a screechy canadian burd doing the commentary ?? sorry - off sport but it needed saying.
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« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2010, 06:32:17 AM »

DA beat me to it, I was going to post the same this morning. Commentary for both curling and skiing was so poor, we switched the sound off in the end. I'd rather listen to paint!
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