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« on: February 20, 2011, 07:04:32 PM »


so no pick ups for the scottish

resolved by a sticky mat ? Huh

hmmm  Huh

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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2011, 07:10:29 PM »

To bring you up to speed about these mats, they are part of the Circle design that no-one wants us to build. There is an awful amount of science just waiting to be used out there, but everyone seems stuck in the Dark Ages!
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2011, 08:10:00 PM »

This is my belated tuppence worth on the subject. At Perth during the Fernie McEwen game, there was a load of salt outside due to the severe weather. The design of Perth is such that you have to walk into the changing rooms, and out of the changing rooms via the same door, and along the same narrow corridor behind the bar end heads. I believe, small traces of salt may have been brought into the changing area and areas behind the heads, and was subsequently taken on to the ice. This week, there is less of a problem of salt outside as it has all been washed away, and therefore not brought into the rink. The sticky mats will certainly help remove any salt or other particles from the feet too. Hence no pick ups this week.

The one obvious design implication is that you need an entry door into the changing rooms which is located at the opposite end  from the access to the ice pad.
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2011, 08:21:02 PM »

Yikkity, a valuable post and I'm not picking a fight with you. However, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that salt will cause a pickup, for the simple reason that it will melt the ice (by raising the temperature by which the ice needs to freeze). In other words, the salt grains will simply make holes in the ice and so be beyond the reach of the running bands of the stones. I can remember a strange experience one morning when I turned up for work and found a hole in my beautiful ice. At the bottom of the hole was the remains of a mint sweetie that someone had dropped the night before -- the sugar (a salt) had allowed it to melt itself into the ice.

Salt from anywhere is not good news for curling ice, and we too had the problem in cold weather. It soon became clear that salt could cause small areas of the ice surface to become very slippery (due to raising the IST) but very little else. H&S dictates that safety is important, and for that reason salt was not used to make road surfaces safe outside the rink while I was in charge. The problem did not recur, but of course the dirt fragments did.
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2011, 12:56:53 AM »

A reliable source informed me that there was no grit picked up on the sticky mats just dust , carpet fluff and hairs , cant say for sure personally ?
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2011, 11:17:52 AM »

I would suppose that there is no 'one' solution to the 'pick-up' problem.

On that basis every piece of kit, that requires no input from the Personnel on the Ice, should be used when play is at this level. However, it would be impossible to remove all potential sources, that might carry Pick-ups, so they were, in some senses, lucky.
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